There was a cool tool* I used in the past that overlaid content from all pages in the preview when cropping the pages, which was a nifty way of ensuring that no (scanned) text on any page got accidentally trimmed, but as much as possible of the useless empty space around the text was removed.
Could such a feature be considered for inclusion in Editor, as a tick-box that users could toggle in the cropping preview dialogue box?
Other users, please feel free to comment on the usefulness (or otherwise) of such a feature.
—DIV
* I think I recall the name of the tool, but maybe it's better not to mention it here, so that there's less chance of a perception of reverse-engineering an implementation, as distinct from creating a fresh implementation of the basic idea?
RFE: optionally overlay content from all pages in preview when cropping
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Re: RFE: optionally overlay content from all pages in preview when cropping
Hi DIV,
you mean in this preview, to have all paged overlaid rather than click through the pages to see what is outside the crop box?
I imagine this might get overwhelming when there are a lot of pages. How would this 507 page document work for example?
That preview would be very busy! Am I misunderstanding the request?
you mean in this preview, to have all paged overlaid rather than click through the pages to see what is outside the crop box?
I imagine this might get overwhelming when there are a lot of pages. How would this 507 page document work for example?
That preview would be very busy! Am I misunderstanding the request?
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Re: RFE: optionally overlay content from all pages in preview when cropping
The preview would indeed get very 'busy', because all of the content from all of the pages would be overlaid onto a single 'page'.
The idea is not to be able to read anything! The idea is to be able to see how far in it is safe to crop "all pages" without accidentally trimming some useful content.
Admittedly when I was doing it I was dealing with documents with no more than dozens of pages, rather than hundreds or thousands of pages. Nevertheless, from the user's point of view it probably becomes more useful for longer documents, because they're more tedious to click through to check for (say) an unusually low footnote on page 47. From the implementation point of view it might take more memory/CPU/time, perhaps — but that's your expertise, not mine
If you wanted to make the idea more 'advanced' (or 'complicated'), then you could allow the user to specify a page range to overlay. Aside from the possible(?) memory/CPU/time issue, the other advantage of this would be to avoid selecting pages of incompatible layout (e.g. a document with a mixture of A4 and A3 page sizes, or a mixture of portrait and landscape orientations).
Perhaps it could be done with a low-resolution rasterisation (to suit the preview size), and then combining them using something similar to either the Multiply or Darken blend modes in the Commenting Tools menu. —DIV
The idea is not to be able to read anything! The idea is to be able to see how far in it is safe to crop "all pages" without accidentally trimming some useful content.
Admittedly when I was doing it I was dealing with documents with no more than dozens of pages, rather than hundreds or thousands of pages. Nevertheless, from the user's point of view it probably becomes more useful for longer documents, because they're more tedious to click through to check for (say) an unusually low footnote on page 47. From the implementation point of view it might take more memory/CPU/time, perhaps — but that's your expertise, not mine

If you wanted to make the idea more 'advanced' (or 'complicated'), then you could allow the user to specify a page range to overlay. Aside from the possible(?) memory/CPU/time issue, the other advantage of this would be to avoid selecting pages of incompatible layout (e.g. a document with a mixture of A4 and A3 page sizes, or a mixture of portrait and landscape orientations).
Perhaps it could be done with a low-resolution rasterisation (to suit the preview size), and then combining them using something similar to either the Multiply or Darken blend modes in the Commenting Tools menu. —DIV
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Re: RFE: optionally overlay content from all pages in preview when cropping
Hello, DIV
I do not expect that this request will be accepted, simply because rasterizing a few hundred pages still requires loading their content to begin with, rendering it, and then downscaling from there, even if the end result is less intense, it would be a very lengthy process (by comparison). At the moment, our "remove all white space" feature, shown below, will calculate the white space for each page individually: This allows you to have pages of various orientations in your document even, and still crop the white space from them all safely without missing a single thing. I think this will be the best we can offer for the time being.
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I do not expect that this request will be accepted, simply because rasterizing a few hundred pages still requires loading their content to begin with, rendering it, and then downscaling from there, even if the end result is less intense, it would be a very lengthy process (by comparison). At the moment, our "remove all white space" feature, shown below, will calculate the white space for each page individually: This allows you to have pages of various orientations in your document even, and still crop the white space from them all safely without missing a single thing. I think this will be the best we can offer for the time being.
Kind regards,
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Re: RFE: optionally overlay content from all pages in preview when cropping
OK. It sounds like the implementation would be more challenging than I expected.
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