Page Ranges not Included in Crop Pages Custom Settings Options

[PHK]

Sometimes when cropping multi-page documents, I want to preserve the top of the first page but apply a standard crop to everything else. That's easy enough to do by setting the Page Range to a Custom setting of "2-". But it appears that settings for Page Ranges do not get saved when I create a custom setting; only the stuff in Crop Margins, right? Is this a conscious design choice or just an inadvertent omission?

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Being able to specify and save Page Range settings as a customizable feature might be useful in other situations such as having different settings for odd and even pages.

[Daniel - PDF-XChange]

Hello, PHK

The active selection when you enter the "crop pages" dialogue has an influence here. The last used "page range" settings will be loaded if there is no active selection in the thumbnails pane (click in a blank area) or if it is closed, and you are opening it from the Organize tab.

Kind regards,

[PHK]

Hello, PHK

The active selection when you enter the "crop pages" dialogue has an influence here. The last used "page range" settings will be loaded if there is no active selection in the thumbnails pane (click in a blank area) or if it is closed, and you are opening it from the Organize tab.

Kind regards,

Yes, I've known that for a long time and it is that performance that I wish to override. Perhaps instead of

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it should read "Save Crop Margins" to be more precise about how it functions as it does not actually save all Current Setting and there probably is little motivation to change it so that it does.

[Daniel - PDF-XChange]

Hello, PHK

Ahh, my apologies, I was looking at the wrong item. Manage settings intentionally does not retain the page range data, because it doing so could result in invalid ranges being saved, or overwriting of the aforementioned special logic to use the selection items with priority. Making changes to those items could cause a whole slew of issues, and so they will remain as is.

Beyond that, The "presets" flyout menu is a generic item which is shared among all functions which offer this utility. As such, there is no "tool specific" naming convention. It would only complicate development/fixing and such, slowing us down further. All of them use the same general layout, and specific buttons which operate in the local context.
EG, here is watermarks:

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New document:

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And crop:

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While the custom named presets are different, the actual commands/tools in this list is generalized to allow easy re-use where these tools could be needed, instead of having a separate custom built menu and set of actions for each. As such, you are correct that is is unlikely to change, but in this particular case, there is a good reason for it.

Kind regards,

[PHK]

Okay, I get that, Daniel. And I see that it applies also to the Background and Split Pages tools and probably others. But my semantic point is that not all Settings get saved and perhaps for transparency that might be made clearer to users. Maybe it should say "Save Custom Setting Other Than Page Ranges." Or put a disclaimer in the User Manual. Maybe it is there already but I cannot find anything on it.

[Daniel - PDF-XChange]

Hello, PHK

The problem with "disclaimers" in any documentation, is they can be and often are very easily forgotten, leading to confusion should this change in the future, when we inevitably forget to update that page... so I would be hesitant to add a note like this.
As often as I may say "I don't foresee it changing"... I am not the Dev team, and they may come along, weeks or months later, and decide "this sounds good", then change it.
Even when I do hear about the change, the odds of me recalling this specific conversation and thinking "Oh, I need to update this page, and that topic, and ... etc" is very slim.

Beyond that, I cannot see the button getting that long of a name (just in principal, our UI dev does not like the button names to be beyond a certain length if at all possible. It would also be quite confusing to see that button somewhere like the "new document" window - Given that the only section available there seems to refer to pages. Generic tools call for generic names and descriptions.

Kind regards,