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Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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In Content I select pages then do:
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but no pages are deleted.

Please fix!

Workaround: use Delete Pages and faff with page numbers.
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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Hello chrisjj,

When you perform this operation in the contents pane - this will delete the content on those pages as intended, and not the whole pages themselves:
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If you need to remove the whole pages please use the Thumbnails pane.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:06 am will delete the content on those pages
This is failure to accord with the UI.

Program should do what it says it will do or say it will do what it will do.
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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Hi, chrisjj

I asked the development team about this and was told that this is the intended behaviour. The "Content" pane is not intended for page operations, only the content on the page.

You will need to use the Thumbs Pane to delete pages, the content pane functionality will not be changed in this respect.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:49 pmI asked the development team about this and was told that this is the intended behaviour.
That suggests they didn't get the full report.

No-one expects a command "Delete the selection" not to delete the selection.
Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:49 pmThe "Content" pane is not intended for page operations
Then the UI didn't get the memo.
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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Hello, chrisjj

The Title of the pane is "content", and the action you are performing is in relation to the "content" of each page. Clicking on a page within the content pane, selects the content on that page, and in line with the rest of the UI in this area, the delete function only deletes the "content" of these pages. This is intended, and yes, the Dev team did get the full report, in-fact they directly read this thread.

This will not be changing at this time.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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@chrisjj
You mean that the tooltip "Delete the selection" that accompanies the Delete-icon in the Content-pane is not correct.

Indeed, it does not delete the selection (read "the selected pages"), but only the content of these pages.

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Maybe you could ask the developers if there is a way to change the concerning tooltip, but myself I doubt about it, because the Delete-function to delete content is probably the same one as the Delete-function to delete pages?

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Hi, Willy Van Nuffel

I suspect it has it's own Tool Tip. Yes, I will ask if it can be changed it to say "Delete contents from page(s)" or similar.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:19 pm The Title of the pane is "content"
And the pages it shows are content.
TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:19 pmthe action you are performing is in relation to the "content" of each page.
The problem there is that fails to accord with the UI. The UI says Delete operates on the the selection, not the "content of each page".

The point of UI labelling is to advertise affordance and thereby reduce user effort and frustration. The above fail simply increases both.
TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:19 pm This will not be changing at this time
Perhaps at the time the designer gets to think again on the rationale here.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Willy Van Nuffel wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:33 pm You mean that the tooltip "Delete the selection" that accompanies the Delete-icon in the Content-pane is not correct.
It is more than an icon's tooltip. It is the command's description.
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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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You can call it a command's description if you like, indeed, but in the terminology of Tracker Software it is a tooltip.
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In either case, you made your statement and let us hope that the Tracker Development team can and will do something about it.

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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Willy Van Nuffel wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:44 am in the terminology of Tracker Software it is a tooltip.
Indeed - something else that could be improved! :)

Here it is appearing in Quick Launch, not as a tooltip.
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Thanks for your input.
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Re: Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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Hello chrisjj, Willy,

We do hear you - and there is already a request with the devs to improve the tooltip. This will also affect the quick launch auto populated drop down - so it would be clearer that this Delete is for the content on the pages, and not for the pages as well!

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Thanks S.
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Delete (the selection) fails when selection is pages in Content

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:)