A strange one:
I tried using the keyboard shortcuts to zoom to "Fit page" (CTRL+1). When I use the number 1 above the letters on the keyboard, it works fine. When I use it on the number pad, it does nothing.
And no, my Num lock is on (the keypad is active), so I can't think why it should be happening.
Zooming shortcut bug
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Re: Zooming shortcut bug
Key 1 on keyborad and key 1 on numpad are different keys and they have different codes (same for all other keys on numpad), so you will need to choose which key assign and use.
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Re: Zooming shortcut bug
If it is deliberate, then as a suggestion: please make the shortcut also apply to the number pad.
It doesn't make sense to have CTRL+0, +1 & +2 (which is what the three shortcuts use) if these can't be used on the number pad. (They are all next to each other on the number pad, but at the far ends of the keyboard on the keyboard.) And you have CTRL + and CTRL - on the number pad for zoom in and out (as with Adobe's reader) so it is just making things less convenient to have to move around the keyboard.
In any case, there is no clue from the shortcut guides which come up when you select it from the menu that you can't use the number pad - I don't think I've ever seen a distinction between number pad and keyboard, when it comes to shortcuts.
Also, I know you're trying to head in your own direction compared to Adobe's reader, but if it was my choice, I would make "fit page" be CTRL+0, as it is in Adobe's reader (not CTRL+1). I say this because I've had many years of using the shortcut to resize pages, so learning a new way just to be different is a little inconvenient.
If I could change the assignments myself, I would happily do that, but I don't think the software allows me to do it.
It doesn't make sense to have CTRL+0, +1 & +2 (which is what the three shortcuts use) if these can't be used on the number pad. (They are all next to each other on the number pad, but at the far ends of the keyboard on the keyboard.) And you have CTRL + and CTRL - on the number pad for zoom in and out (as with Adobe's reader) so it is just making things less convenient to have to move around the keyboard.
In any case, there is no clue from the shortcut guides which come up when you select it from the menu that you can't use the number pad - I don't think I've ever seen a distinction between number pad and keyboard, when it comes to shortcuts.
Also, I know you're trying to head in your own direction compared to Adobe's reader, but if it was my choice, I would make "fit page" be CTRL+0, as it is in Adobe's reader (not CTRL+1). I say this because I've had many years of using the shortcut to resize pages, so learning a new way just to be different is a little inconvenient.
If I could change the assignments myself, I would happily do that, but I don't think the software allows me to do it.
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Re: Zooming shortcut bug
If you want to use keys on numpad - just assign them in shortcuts. All programs I know treat numpad keys and "general" keys as different and this is normal.
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Re: Zooming shortcut bug
You can modify the shortcuts yourself, though you can only assign one shortcut to each function.guyghk wrote:If I could change the assignments myself, I would happily do that, but I don't think the software allows me to do it.
Right-click on any toolbar, Customise. Select the commands tab on the customise dialogue. In that dialogue you can assign shortcuts to each menu item, e.g. View, Actual Size. If you try to assign a shortcut that is already assigned to another function, you will see a warning. You can restore the default shortcuts, or remove the current shortcut too.
I agree that Numpad and Alpha keyboard keys are different keys. Why waste two of the most useful shortcuts on a single function?
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Re: Zooming shortcut bug
Thanks Bhikkhu - I have changed the shortcut back to CTRL+0 (the same as it has been for many years in the Acrobat Reader).
My only points are:
1) Why change from a very standard navigation shortcut in Acrobat (CTRL+0 in Acrobat changed to CTRL+1 in Viewer)?
2) What proportion of users actually think that CTRL+1 (keyboard) and CTRL+1 (number pad) are different shortcuts?
I don't care (q.2) if they have different codes - I just know that they are both accessible in an Adobe Reader and the number pad is much easier to access for resizing, since "0", "+" and "-" are all within such easy reach of each other.
After posting to the forum and getting your reply (thanks again), I have the solution to get back to what I consider the optimal interface, but how many people will do that? If you hadn't posted the solution, I would have been left thinking the Viewer was great apart from that one irritation. And I am used to customising buttons and toolbars - I do it all the time with Excel etc, but it just wasn't obvious or intuitive that I could do it with the Viewer.
My only points are:
1) Why change from a very standard navigation shortcut in Acrobat (CTRL+0 in Acrobat changed to CTRL+1 in Viewer)?
2) What proportion of users actually think that CTRL+1 (keyboard) and CTRL+1 (number pad) are different shortcuts?
I don't care (q.2) if they have different codes - I just know that they are both accessible in an Adobe Reader and the number pad is much easier to access for resizing, since "0", "+" and "-" are all within such easy reach of each other.
After posting to the forum and getting your reply (thanks again), I have the solution to get back to what I consider the optimal interface, but how many people will do that? If you hadn't posted the solution, I would have been left thinking the Viewer was great apart from that one irritation. And I am used to customising buttons and toolbars - I do it all the time with Excel etc, but it just wasn't obvious or intuitive that I could do it with the Viewer.