flexible page size for printing - is it really impossible

[yetsog]

Hi,

I just found this software recently and got quite excited about it. I wanted to roll it out for out (non-profit) organization, espessially for its anotation features. They are really great.
Anyhow, after testing a bit further I decided that its quite problematic necause there are some basic functionality that AdobeReader has, that we cannot do with it, and hance I'm fforced to fall back on Adobe...

One of the main things its the fact that I cannot manipulate the paper size when printing. In Adobe you can go to File > Print Setup and choose any kind of paper you want to to, and it will print to that size (A3, A4 etc). It is a very useful feature, even though an annoying way to do it.

In XChange Viewer I cannot find any option to select the paper I want. There is only "Choose paper source by PDF-page size", but that is exactly the thing I would like to override, and so enlarge/reduce a pdf to an other paper.

Please let me know if its me who cannot find this feature, or its really missing?

On the same (related) subject:
where can I see the PDF-page size? Usually it listed in the properties, but here its not part of the listing.

where does XChangeViewer picks up my default page size. In some computers it thinks its US letter, on others it takes A4. I already tried to change all Windows settings to influence this behaviour, but no success. It would be so much easier if it would be part of the preferences!!

Best for all of you, espesially those who willing/can help

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

I just found this software recently and got quite excited about it. I wanted to roll it out for out (non-profit) organization, espessially for its anotation features. They are really great.

Thanks.

In XChange Viewer I cannot find any option to select the paper I want. There is only "Choose paper source by PDF-page size", but that is exactly the thing I would like to override, and so enlarge/reduce a pdf to an other paper.

Please let me know if its me who cannot find this feature, or its really missing?

Just press "Properties" left to selected printer, and set any paper your printer support (uncheck "Choose paper source by PDF-page size" option). Also, select required "Scale type".

where can I see the PDF-page size? Usually it listed in the properties, but here its not part of the listing.

where does XChangeViewer picks up my default page size. In some computers it thinks its US letter, on others it takes A4. I already tried to change all Windows settings to influence this behaviour, but no success. It would be so much easier if it would be part of the preferences!!

What is "default page size" ? Each page into PDF can has different page size. PDF XChange viewer shows size of current page near to horizontal scrool bar. Also, please note, you can select units pressing right mouse button on the area where page size is shown.

Best for all of you, espesially those who willing/can help

Best help, is to read manual. At least sometimes.

[Bhikkhu Pesala]

PDF-XChange also has some flexible options for N-up Printing, and Tiling.

Have a good look at my review and see what other great features you can find. It cannot quite do everything that Adobe Reader does, but it does many things that Adobe Reader doesn't, it does other things better, and is much faster when searching big files. All this in a much smaller download.

And there is no need to uninstall Adobe Reader to use it. Set it as your default viewer, and in the unlikely event that you come across a file it cannot read or handle well, then click on the icon at bottom right to launch the file in Adobe Reader.

[Cadillakin]

Have a good look at my review and see what other great features you can find.

Cool. Before I purchased the viewer last week, I wanted somebody with more knowledge and experience with the app to validate it's value. I found your review. Then I paid.

[yetsog]

Dear Ivan,

thanks for your answers, but it doesn't really do what I meant.

In XChange Viewer I cannot find any option to select the paper I want. There is only "Choose paper source by PDF-page size", but that is exactly the thing I would like to override, and so enlarge/reduce a pdf to an other paper.

Please let me know if its me who cannot find this feature, or its really missing?

Just press "Properties" left to selected printer, and set any paper your printer support (uncheck "Choose paper source by PDF-page size" option). Also, select required "Scale type".

My printer is set to use A4, and still in the preview window it shows letter. It's the same if I choose A3 in the printer. If I still try to print the printer uses the paper I asked for, but the documents is still scaled as if I was using letter (as in the preview window). All this indendent of what "scale option" I use. It works the same for all of them. So its not a solution at all.
I would like to print a page that in the PDF defined as A4 for example to an A3 paper (or vise versa). I got no idea why XChangeViewer even brings up the US-letter option in the first place.

where can I see the PDF-page size? Usually it listed in the properties, but here its not part of the listing.

where does XChangeViewer picks up my default page size. In some computers it thinks its US letter, on others it takes A4. I already tried to change all Windows settings to influence this behaviour, but no success. It would be so much easier if it would be part of the preferences!!

What is "default page size" ?

XChangeViewer picks up US letter, each time the "choose paper source by PDF-size" is not selected. That what I mean by default paper size. I have no US-letter defined anywhere in my computer, at least I tried to remove it from all Windows definitions, and all my printers have only A4, A3 and so on sizes. Does it clarify the question?

Each page into PDF can has different page size. PDF XChange viewer shows size of current page near to horizontal scrool bar.

Cool, that's one of the things I was looking for.

Best for all of you, espesially those who willing/can help

Best help, is to read manual. At least sometimes.

I usually don't read the manuals, but in this case, since XChangeViewer is not that intoitive, I had to have a look. Still, I couldn't find the answers to the above questions. That's why I posted them here.
Actulally, I did find another thread about the US-letter/A4 problem here in the forum, but there was no answer there either... I hope there is one somewhere.

So if there is somebody who knows... It's never late to help

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

Please send a report via Help -> Report a problem, with checked options to send viewer's settings and printer's list.
Also please add link to this topic into email body - this will help us to easy identify email and the topic.

[Cadillakin]

One of the main things its the fact that I cannot manipulate the paper size when printing. In Adobe you can go to File > Print Setup and choose any kind of paper you want to to, and it will print to that size (A3, A4 etc). It is a very useful feature, even though an annoying way to do it.

In XChange Viewer I cannot find any option to select the paper I want.[/color] There is only "Choose paper source by PDF-page size", but that is exactly the thing I would like to override, and so enlarge/reduce a pdf to an other paper.

Please let me know if its me who cannot find this feature, or its really missing?

I think there is some kind of misunderstanding here.. and maybe it's my own. But as far as I know, software such as Xchange or Adobe Reader do not control the changing of paper size. That is a function of the printer driver - accessed through the properties page of the respective printer..

When you click "Print Setup" in Adobe, that request is handed off to the printer that you have selected.. and the printer driver presents you with the choices of which paper size to print to.

When you click on Print in Xchange Viewer, you are presented with what is commonly known as a "print preview". You can do some manipulating and scaling there in the preview page, but again, the paper size is controlled by the printer driver not the Xchange viewer. You will access the printer driver settings by going to the top of the preview page and choosing the printer that you will be using..ie the "Printer Name" dropdown box. Then, to access the printer driver functions and paper size, you choose properties... If its a normal physical printer, in the properties page there will be a "Page Setup". Choose your paper there! When you do change the page size there, the preview page that Xchange shows you will immediately change to accomodate the different size.. From there, you can further manipulate the output.

Do not check the "Choose Paper Source to PDF Page Size. We'll talk about what that does next time..

I hope this long post doesn't confuse, but rather, helps.

[Cadillakin]

Yetsog..

If I can ask, just what printer are you attempting to print to? Because if its a virtual printer driver like Cute PDF or one of the other freeware PDF printer-drivers, there won't be any choices to change the paper, whereas a real printer like a Canon will give you those choices that you are looking for.

[yetsog]

... You can do some manipulating and scaling there in the preview page, but again, the paper size is controlled by the printer driver not the Xchange viewer. You will access the printer driver settings by going to the top of the preview page and choosing the printer that you will be using..ie the "Printer Name" dropdown box. Then, to access the printer driver functions and paper size, you choose properties... If its a normal physical printer, in the properties page there will be a "Page Setup". Choose your paper there!

I agree with all what you say here.

When you do change the page size there, the preview page that Xchange shows you will immediately change to accomodate the different size..

This is new to me. I tried a lot of time to manipulate the printer itself, but it does not, in anyway, effects XCh-V as far as I can tell.
Actually all my printers have A4 paper (and some A3 and A5 as well), and still XCh-V shows US-letter in the preview all the time, unless I select the "choose paper..." thingie.

If I can ask, just what printer are you attempting to print to? Because if its a virtual printer driver like Cute PDF or one of the other freeware PDF printer-drivers, there won't be any choices to change the paper, whereas a real printer like a Canon will give you those choices that you are looking for.

They are all phisical printers. One is Xerox Phaser 7400, and I also use a Panasonic DP-C405.

It's a bit of a mistery for me how can XCh-V detect my settings when using all kinda different drivers. I'm not a developer, but I would think that its very difficult to encode to support a whole range of drivers in this way. at least that what I understand from you, Xch-V supposed to do.

Thanks for trying to solve it.

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

They are all physical printers. One is Xerox Phaser 7400, and I also use a Panasonic DP-C405.

It's a bit of a mystery for me how can XCh-V detect my settings when using all kinda different drivers. I'm not a developer, but I would think that its very difficult to encode to support a whole range of drivers in this way. at least that what I understand from you, Xch-V supposed to do.

The PDF-XChange viewer makes no distinction between different drivers. We are using the standard DEVMODE returned by the specific driver and using this structure and some standard Windows API functions, with which we can retrieve a list of the specific printers supported papers and currently selected paper - etc, this is the preferred Windows method for such operations

It Would be very-very helpful if you can send me your "Xerox Phaser 7400" driver package (zipped please)

I'm asking because there have been some users who have had problems with Xerox drivers and these problems were solved after updating the printer's driver, unfortunately no one(!), despite asking several times, has yet sent me any of the problem drivers for testing

It would be extremely useful to be able to investigate these problematic drivers, if we can locate where the issue is we may be able to take preventative measures to avoid problems with Xerox drivers int he future.

Many thanks

[yetsog]

For the benefit of those who run into similar problem here is my conclusion:

I think its a bug, and indeed XCh-v supposed to detect your page setting from your printer driver.

If it happens to you as well (paper size is not correctly detected), there is a way around: Set/change your page setup for Microsoft Office Ducoment Image Writer. This will be reflected on the preview of other printers as well.

Thanks Ivan for the additional clarifications via email. I hope you can find a solutions

[rickdputo]

hello everyone - hope this is the right location to post this question:
I'm using PDF X-change 4.0 to generate PDF in Revit and AutoCAD.

Is there a way for me to remove ALL the paper sizes and only show the custom forms..?
thanks

[Stefan - PDF-XChange]

Hello rickdputo,

Any custom sizes you have set for our printing driver would be shown on top of the list in the driver preferences, but after the initial set up you should not need to touch those, as if left to Auto - the size would be controlled by your printing application - and whether you can customize the list of available sheet sizes is up to that software.

Best,
Stefan