Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Hi people!

First, as many others, I'd like to say that you are doing a great job with this PDF viewer/editor, it makes life and colaborations so much easier.

The callout tool is nice, but I think it could be improved: if the item I want to point to is on the right margin of the page, the callout will look kind of funny, with its pointing arrow going to its LEFT side, then beneath the text box and then crossing most of the width of the page. In the point where the arrow bends from horizontal to whatever angle, you already have a control point which is draggable. Why not to be able to drag it to the OTHER side of the text box and thus allow for a neat layout. It's maybe a bit difficult to understand what I mean, so I think this image is worth some 200 words:

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Pushing it even further: why not to be able to move the control point also above/below the callout box? Thanks for your consideration,

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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Hi,

Logical and interesting suggestion, I guess there must be a reason , but will surely ask the project manager responisble for his comments...

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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Just put mouse pointer on connection point (point where text box is connected with the line; you should note mouse pointer will be changed), press left mouse button and drag the connection to the side you like

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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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I think it's already supported as an attached file.
But I don't know how to set default of Callout pointing.
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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Ivan - Tracker Software wrote:Just put mouse pointer on connection point (point where text box is connected with the line; you should note mouse pointer will be changed), press left mouse button and drag the connection to the side you like

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Ugh! It comes as a suprise to me and only after reading your post three times and looking again at the figure of dodemoii I was able to actually do it. The problem(s) I see are the following:
- when I place the mouse over the bending point, the mouse changes to double-headed arrow (left-right in the default callout). Intuitive and it happens as expected.
- when I place the mouse over the connecting point, the mouse changes to.... "text tool"
- only when the sharpest point of the mouse pointer points to the LEFT (i.e. outmost) border of the connection point, does the mouse change to a smaller, hollow arrow and only then I can move the connection point. Since I move my mouse pretty fast, I did not notice that before, since I was aiming (normally?) for the CENTER of the connecting point. Is this the same behavior you see on your system? I can't really make a screenshot, since I don't know how to include the mouse pointer in the screenshot, both "print screen" and Gimp leave the mouse out of the picture.

After a few more tests: the only position where the mouse behaves "as expected" is bottom: when the connector is at the bottom of the callout I can hover over its center and I get the proper arrow. If it's on the top, left or right, I have to aim to its outmost edge, or (in high-mag, 300%) even a bit over the line connecting to the arrow to get the expected effect.

So, thanks for the tip, but what's up with this strange "offset"?
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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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taconsta wrote:When I place the mouse over the connecting point, the mouse changes to.... "text tool"
- only when the sharpest point of the mouse pointer points to the LEFT (i.e. outmost) border of the connection point, does the mouse change to a smaller, hollow arrow and only then I can move the connection point.
This is what I see (FastStone Capture is recommended for grabbing screen shots):

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The white arrow appears, not when it is over the centre of the node, but when on the outside edge of the node, where the line joins. IMO it is perfectly useable, once you know where to find it.
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Re: Feature rq: Callout pointing to right

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Bhikkhu Pesala wrote: The white arrow appears, not when it is over the centre of the node, but when on the outside edge of the node, where the line joins. IMO it is perfectly useable, once you know where to find it.
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Well, I guess you nailed the problem down: "once you know where to find it" is the key, and I am considered by people around me as being quite skilled when it comes to comptuers.

Thaks for the tip with FastScreen, sounds very interesting, also for screen video captures!