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How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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If "Use Logical Page Numbers" is active, it shows both the page label and the pdf page number in the page navigation bar:
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The problem I'm having is how to jump to a pdf page number? For example in the above snip, I've entered 387 but it will only jump to the page that has a label 387, not actual page 387. The same thing happens if I use "Go to Page…"

What I'm looking for is a way to click on the number 391 and enter an actual pdf page number to jump to. Is this possible?



Distant secondary question: Is the only place to set this "Logical Page" setting on the menu in the Thumbnails pane?
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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Hello, Mathew

Since it is possible (and surprisingly common) for there to be multiple groups of "logical page numbers" in a single document, which consist of the same ranges of "page numbering" (IE, you can have page 1-10, more than once in the file, on top of the actual physical pane numbers), such an option is not planned to be implemented at this time.

As for toggling logical page numbering on and off, this can also be done from the preferences, under the page display category, but the most easily accessible option is in the thumbnails pane, yes.

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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown  SOLVED

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Hello Mathew,

If you put + at the beginning of the page number, it will be interpreted as a physical page number, not a logical page label. In your example, typing "+387" would go to the physical page 387. I found this method by chance, so it may suddenly become unusable, but it works for both "Page Navigation Toolbar" and "Go to Page" in the latest build 396.

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If this is the correct usage, it would increase the likelihood that users would know about this usage if it were mentioned in the "Page Navigation Toolbar" or "Go to Page" tooltip.

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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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Mathew wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:52 pm ...
Distant secondary question: Is the only place to set this "Logical Page" setting on the menu in the Thumbnails pane?
I am not sure I understand the question but I use three approaches.

The Page Numbering tool for a subseries of pages.

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Or by selecting a range of pages in the Thumbnails panel and choosing the Number Pages option from the context menu.

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Or F2 Rename in Thumbnails panel for a single page.

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It might be noted that I have assigned a hotkey "N" to the Page Numbering tool.

There are probably more.
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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rakunavi wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:17 am Hello Mathew,

If you put + at the beginning of the page number, it will be interpreted as a physical page number, not a logical page label. In your example, typing "+387" would go to the physical page 387. I found this method by chance, so it may suddenly become unusable, but it works for both "Page Navigation Toolbar" and "Go to Page" in the latest build 396.

@PDF-XChange Support
If this is the correct usage, it would increase the likelihood that users would know about this usage if it were mentioned in the "Page Navigation Toolbar" or "Go to Page" tooltip.

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Now, that's what I call a true Easter Egg. Good find, rakunavi!!
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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Daniel - PDF-XChange wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:39 pm Hello, Mathew

Since it is possible (and surprisingly common) for there to be multiple groups of "logical page numbers" in a single document, which consist of the same ranges of "page numbering" (IE, you can have page 1-10, more than once in the file, on top of the actual physical pane numbers), such an option is not planned to be implemented at this time.
I think you have my question backwards: Your example is exactly my problem. If I enter a page to jump to it goes to the logical page. I want to go to the actual page. Fortunately @rakunavi posted the solution!
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rakunavi wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:17 am If you put + at the beginning of the page number, it will be interpreted as a physical page number, not a logical page label. In your example, typing "+387" would go to the physical page 387.
Fantastic! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you
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:)
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PHK wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 9:14 am
Mathew wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:52 pm ...
Distant secondary question: Is the only place to set this "Logical Page" setting on the menu in the Thumbnails pane?
I am not sure I understand the question but I use three approaches.
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Thank you FringePhil - but to be clearer: My question was how to turn "Logical Pages" on and off.

I generally have bookmarks shown, so that setting is not visible in the menu for the bookmarks. I was wondering if anyone knows if that setting is accessible any other way. I've added it manually to the "Go To" sub-menu under View, so I think I'm fine; but it would make sense to me that it was somewhere in Options.
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Mathew wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:44 pm ...

I generally have bookmarks shown, so that setting is not visible in the menu for the bookmarks. I was wondering if anyone knows if that setting is accessible any other way. I've added it manually to the "Go To" sub-menu under View, so I think I'm fine; but it would make sense to me that it was somewhere in Options.
Ah, I get it; thank you for the clarification.

I assigned a hotkey to the function [F12] to see if I could toggle logical pages names/true page numbers from anywhere else besides the Thumbnails panel. No, I couldn't. And it does not toggle in the Thumbnails panel.

So, it seems there are only two ways: in the Thumbnails panel as you point out and in the Page Display option of Preferences.

To be able to toggle from 'anywhere' might be a nice feature to have should DevTeam consider adding it.
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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PHK wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:14 pm So, it seems there are only two ways: in the Thumbnails panel as you point out and in the Page Display option of Preferences.
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Ahh :roll: I can't believe I missed it. That's what I was looking for. Perfect.
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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Great!

But toggling would be cool, no?
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PHK wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:42 pm But toggling would be cool, no?
:wink: but given the mountain of other feature requests, probably an exceedingly low priority. Given Rakunavi's brilliant discovery I don't really need to turn it off any more; and by adding it to a regular menu item through Customize Toolbars… I can get to it pretty easily.
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Hello Mathew, PHK,

Actually the command can have a shortcut assigned:
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And when using that key combination it does work as a toggle for me perfectly fine.

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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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Stefan - PDF-XChange wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:25 am Hello Mathew, PHK,

Actually the command can have a shortcut assigned:
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And when using that key combination it does work as a toggle for me perfectly fine.

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Ah, yes, but with a twist.

I assigned the F12 key shortcut, as I wrote above, and I was repeatedly pressing that key and nothing was happening. I now see that it takes a few seconds for the toggle to take effect on largish, complex files, such as what I was testing it on. In other words, the toggle is not necessarily instantaneous; be patient.

Thank you, Stefan, for prompting me to go back and diagnose why it was not working for me.

I withdraw my suggestion for an additional functionality as it is already there.
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Re: How to go to a page number when Logical Page (page label) is shown

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This greatly enhances the usability of the app for me because I like to label pages in the Thumbnails panel to match the respective Bookmarks, and vice versa. Now I can do that freely without losing the ability to see the 'phyiscal' page number at will.
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:)